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In this latest powerful and moving episode Kellie Burns is back — and this conversation goes deeper than ever. In Episode 12, Kellie shared her powerful trauma story and the loss of her beloved brother, Sean. Today, we pick up from the next moment that changed everything: a major back injury, the fear of a three-level spinal fusion, and the wake-up call that became a turning point.

Together, Dr Nat and Kellie explore the real relationship between physical pain and mental health, why midlife can feel like an identity earthquake (hello empty nest + perimenopause), and what it actually takes to rebuild yourself when life forces you to evolve.

This is a raw and empowering conversation about reclaiming agency, choosing what matters, letting go of old identities, and creating sustainable wellbeing through movement, nourishment, nervous system support, and community.

In this episode, we cover:

• Kellie’s update since Episode 12 — and why life demanded a new chapter
• Postnatal depression, the “radical” advice that helped, and why movement matters
• Grief, trauma, and the long shadow of losing a sibling to suicide
• Chronic pain and mental health: why your physiology shapes your mindset
• The moment before surgery: fear, despair, and the line between coping and breaking
• What it means to stop trying to “get back to who you were” — and evolve instead
• Psychological flexibility as a key predictor of peace and future happiness
• Midlife identity shifts: empty nesting, menopause, agency, and reinvention
• “Grey divorce,” relationship re-negotiation, and the courage to choose yourself
• Muscle, bone density, and why strength is protective as we age
• The hidden mental health signal: screen time, numbing, and nervous system overload
• Community as medicine: “In order to have a village, you need to be a villager”

Guest spotlight: Kellie Burns
Kellie Burns is a successful real estate agent and business owner, mum of two young adults, and a fully qualified health coach. She holds a Diploma of Counselling, Certificate III in Fitness, and Certificate IV in Nutrition, and has a special interest in the powerful connection between emotional wellbeing, physical health, movement, and nutrition — especially for midlife women.

How to work with Kellie:

• Instagram: @kellieburnscoach
• Website:

This episode may include a short message from Dr Nat about her upcoming live masterclass:

Why You Keep Hitting An Invisible Ceiling — Even After All The Work

🗓 Friday 27 February 🕚 11:00am AEDT (Sydney, Australia)

This 90-minute live session is for those who've done the work but still feel like something is holding them back. You can find registration details via this link Masterclass Signup

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Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for educational purposes only. It is not intended to be deemed or treated as psychological treatment or to replace the need for psychological treatment.

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What if the animals in our lives are more than companions?
What if they are part of our healing?

In this deeply moving and thought-provoking episode of Growing Tall Poppies, Dr. Nat Green is joined by animal communicator and psychosomatic practitioner Katherine Luna Sol, whose life journey bridges trauma, intuition, science, and the profound connection between humans and animals.

Katherine shares how early childhood trauma, sensitivity, and survival shaped her path — and how an extraordinary bond with her first horse became the catalyst for healing, identity discovery, and ultimately her life’s work.

Through loss, grief, and relentless searching for answers, Katherine immersed herself in multiple healing modalities, blending traditional animal care, somatic awareness, and energy-based approaches to support both animals and their humans.

This conversation explores the powerful ways animals can:

• Reflect our emotional world
• Support nervous system healing
• Help us reconnect with identity after trauma
• Walk beside us as we move from survival into growth

Whether you’re an animal lover, trauma survivor, or someone navigating your own healing journey, this episode invites you to consider connection, hope, and healing from a completely new perspective.

🌿 In This Episode, We Explore:

✔ How trauma can shape identity — and how healing can reshape it
✔ The deep emotional bonds between humans and animals during times of adversity
✔ Why animals often become anchors of safety, regulation, and connection
✔ Katherine’s journey from pre-veterinary training to psychosomatic and intuitive healing work
✔ The role of somatic healing, emotional release, and inner work in post-traumatic growth
✔ How grief, loss, and resilience can open unexpected pathways to purpose
✔ The importance of hope, tenacity, and following even the smallest spark forward
✔ Moving from codependency to what Katherine calls “sovereignty and union” in relationships — with animals and ourselves

🌟 Key Takeaways

- Healing doesn’t always arrive logically.
- Sometimes it begins with connection.
- Sometimes it begins with loss.
- And sometimes, it begins with the quiet presence of an animal who helps us feel safe enough to come back to ourselves.

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This episode may include a short message from Dr Nat about her upcoming live masterclass:

Why You Keep Hitting An Invisible Ceiling — Even After All The Work

🗓 Friday 27 February 🕚 11:00am AEDT (Sydney, Australia)

This 90-minute live session is for those who've done the work but still feel like something is holding them back. You can find registration details via this link Masterclass Signup

If this episode resonates with you then I'd love for you to hit SUBSCRIBE so you can keep updated with each new episode as soon as it's released and we'd be most grateful if you would give us a RATING as well. You can also find me on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drnatgreen/ or on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DrNatalieGreen

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Have you ever found yourself thinking:

“I’ve done so much work on myself…
So why do I still feel stuck sometimes?”

You’ve been to therapy.
You’ve read the books.
You understand your patterns.
You’ve grown.

And yet…

There can still be moments where something inside you feels slightly braced and on edge. Like you’re doing well in life… but not fully relaxed inside it.

In this deeply honest episode, Dr Nat Green explores one of the least talked about stages of trauma healing:

👉 When your life is safe…
👉 But your body is still catching up.

This episode explains — in simple, real language — why you can understand your healing journey mentally, but still feel tension, hesitation, or fear in your body.

And most importantly:

Why this is not failure.
Why this is not you being broken.
Why this is actually incredibly normal after trauma and chronic stress.

🌿 What You’ll Learn In This Episode

• Why you can feel stuck even after years of therapy or personal development
• The difference between understanding your trauma and your body feeling safe
• Why your nervous system can still react to old danger — even when life is different now
• How early survival patterns can show up as perfectionism, overworking, hyper-independence or overthinking
• Why body-based healing approaches (like TRE — Tension & Trauma Releasing Exercises) can help release stored stress patterns
• What real “moving forward” often feels like (and why it’s usually quiet, not dramatic)

💛 Who This Episode Is For

This episode is especially for you if you:

✔ Have done therapy or deep personal development work
✔ Consider yourself self-aware and reflective
✔ Are high-functioning but still feel tension or “brace” in your life
✔ Feel confused about why growth doesn’t always feel easier
✔ Want trauma healing explained in real, relatable language
✔ Are curious about nervous system healing and body-based approaches
✔ Are ready for healing that feels safe, not forced

🌱 About Body-Based Healing & TRE

This episode also introduces the idea that trauma and stress aren’t just stored in thoughts — they can be stored in the body.

Dr Nat gently explains how approaches like TRE (Tension & Trauma Releasing Exercises) help the body release long-held stress and survival tension safely and naturally.

No forcing.
No rehashing your story.
Just allowing the body to let go of what it no longer needs to hold.

This episode may include a short message from Dr Nat about her upcoming live masterclass:

Why You Keep Hitting An Invisible Ceiling — Even After All The Work

🗓 Friday 27 February 🕚 11:00am AEDT (Sydney, Australia)

This 90-minute live session is for those who've done the work but still feel like something is holding them back. You can find registration details via this link Masterclass Signup

If this episode resonates with you then I'd love for you to hit SUBSCRIBE so you can keep updated with each new episode as soon as it's released and we'd be most grateful if you would give us a RATING as well. You can also find me on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drnatgreen/ or on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DrNatalieGreen

Intro and Outro music: Inspired Ambient by Playsound.

Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for educational purposes only. It is not intended to be deemed or treated as psychological treatment or to replace the need for psychological treatment.